JULIE WINTER CHANNELING MICCIAH
Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Micciah Zoom Session 2/6//25 - 2 Worlds, Vibrating Universe, Your Vibratory Rate, Prayers, Alive Food, Democracy, Victimhood, Love, Showing Up, Ask for Guidance, Self-Healing, Listening to Different Points of View, Unconscious Beliefs, Trump Afraid

Micciah discusses:
Living in 2 worlds …your world would be torn in two and groups of people would be living in the same physical reality, but entirely different reality in consciousness, literally in two different worlds… View Section
All the Universe Vibrates, Prayers, Your Being’s Vibratory Rate One of the ways to be in beingness that shifts your relationship to what is happening, is to shift your vibratory rates. View Section
Love: The Core of Your Being Your body hears you. So, when you love your body, even if it feels unusual or uncomfortable at first, actively tell your body, I love you. I love you. View Section
Alive Food The earth has a vibratory rate. Everything, everything, the food you eat. View Section
What can we do to maintain our democracy? Tune It out? Or do we engage with it? Micciah: Well, you see, it depends on what we are talking about. You can do both. View Section
How to keep ourselves from being victims or feeling like victims? When you feel like a victim work with your vibratory rate … The universe hears you, knows your thoughts, knows your feelings, knows your intentions, knows what you want to manifest. It’s two-way. So, when you go into it, to be respectful of it … and maybe reach out to a friend or to someone in this group ... Not online! View Section
Keep Showing Up Showing up is another vital part. Show up. And if you&srquo;re not going to march, if you want to demonstrate, show up by sending someone $5 or $50, send to organization that you trust. Show up, show up saying thank you. View Section
Prayers Your prayers affect your vibratory rate. View Section
Healing OneselfThe energies of spirit and your own visualizing and loving your body will make you well. View Section
Listening to Different Points of View Be curious. View Section
Handling Unconscious Beliefs When you hear your inner voice rolling around in fear to offer yourself comfort. And then make another choice. View Section
Trump Essentially Afraid All that rests underneath that pile is fear. View Section


   Micciah: So, we greet you dear friends, and we are most pleased to be invited to speak with you. And as so often happens, there are many energies who are present. You are learning from us. We are learning from you, and appreciate your generosity in inviting us first, particularly because of the material we are going to deal with this evening.
   We want to make a note about the constraints of language, maybe less in some languages, but very much in English, constraints having to do with time. You are living in a realm where you perceive time in a particular way, even though in a quantum sense, time is fluid, the stretches and it gets larger and smaller. So, whatever we say, there's, there is a distortion in the language. It's not possible to communicate all of what Julie is aware of in English, but you are speaking English. So, we live with it.
   This is a time of intense transformation. Those of you who have been doing this work together for many years will remember that as long ago as 20 or 25 years in your time, we said at the end of the last century into the present century, the world, your world would be torn in two and groups of people would be living in the same physical reality, but entirely different reality in consciousness, literally in two different worlds, apparently, in two different worlds. Obviously, that has, that is where you are now. And we would like to shift...
   Oh, that is the other thing about language and cultural beliefs. So, in western culture, higher is good. We/you speak of higher consciousness, lower is bad. Light is good, dark is bad. We want to discard those as much as possible in what we are going to say. It isn't true of all cultures. If you think of the yin yang symbol, circle line, black, white with a dot of white and the black and a dot of black in the white.
   So, we want to talk not so much about... We want to include doing, because doing is part of your commitment in coming into a physical incarnation in this realm. But we want the, the deeper emphasis to be on being rather than do... No, to be on being and your being, regulates the choices of what you do. So, if you are in a being that is cultivating compassion, love, open-heartedness, tolerance, joy, reverence, then your doing arises out of that... those qualities of being that you have chosen.
   And we will say again, as we say with boring regularity, one of the reasons you come into a physical incarnation is to learn about choice. To learn about choice. There are other realms where this is not an issue. Other things are happening. So, as the Buddhists say, at any moment, you can make a different choice. And that is a great power and something crucial to understand. Because one of the things that a situation like this one, with brutality and hatred and violence, is that it rouses, mmm, rouses a number of things, one of which is fear.
   The old brain, the old brain is actually back here. [points to back of her head] Julie always does this. That's not where it is. When the personality self is caught in those feelings, the choices that you make will be regulated by the old brain. And the job of the old brain is survival. And anything that threatens survival, creates a reaction that... eh, you need to become conscious.
   Most of you are conscious of when you have gone there. Ugh, as many of you have said, so much that is happening is frightening. One of the ways to be in beingness that shifts your relationship to what is happening, is to shift your vibratory rates. This, this also is very tricky in terms of language. So, we'll try.
   We'll use some examples, so it is clearer. If you choose to meditate, to be conscious of your speech, “Right speech.” To be conscious of your actions, your vibratory rate... rates will not only, not only calm you and help to calm the personality when you are agitated or anxious, but, and it is what you will... Though those shifted vibratory rates of love, of compassion, of curiosity, of openheartedness. There is only one of you, you know. Thich Nhat Hanh talks about interbeing. There really is only one of you individuated at the point where you are. So, whatever you do, as Stephen Levine said, if everyone did just this much, it would make a difference. So, your focus, your focus is on meditation in whatever way you want. You focus to shift the vibratory rates your own, and then it ripples out and other people pick it up. You know, if you are in a room with people who are angry, you feel it. If you are in a room with people who are loving in whatever way they love, you feel it.
   So, meditation of any kind you choose. It could be no more than being silent, being quiet a few times a day. Yes, the thoughts will run through and that's all right. Just let them run. Notice what they are. We said this when, uh, himself was not elected the first time, this time he was elected, although there was little funny business in there, to take care of your own body. Your strength and wellness, to the extent that you can manage it. It differs with different people, it will help you through times of chaos.
   It is like the beginning of the Tonglen prayer. May I be happy. (Happy? Why would I be happy in these times?) May I be happy. May all beings be happy.
   So first, attend to your beautiful body, actively, lovingly. You know, um, Molecules of Emotion. A book which was written by a woman who was a doctor and a scientist that proved your body, hears you. So, when you love your body, even if it feels, um, un, unusual or uncomfortable at first, actively telling your body, I love you. I love you. I love you, the way you would say to a, to a child or a pet, and I love you. I love you. You are doing a good job. I love you. So, focusing on wellness... Hmm, Just a moment now there's a flood of information. Focusing on wellness, on meditation, on connection, on community, on reaching out to people intentionally, even if at a personality level, you don't happen to feel like it at the moment. Offering love, offering love, offering love, blessing, blessing. Blessing is very powerful. Blessing your body, blessing your food, blessing your friends, blessing from the beginning of the day to the end of the day, into the night, into your dreams, the consciousness of the blessed in, in all kinds of ways, with humor, with dancing, with singing. Most people in your culture, unless they belong to a choir or a group that sings, stop, stop singing. We was, we have said this before, sound, sound, everything in the universe vibrates, everything. This is something that Einstein recognized that has been recognized by other, by some religions, Hindu for sure, Buddhism, the, mystical aspects of Judaism and Sufism. Everything, everything! So, you are in relationship to your breakfast. Your breakfast is vibrating and you are vibrating, and you are, as we believe it comes from the Sweetgrass book, Is that so Alaina?
   You say “thank you” to begin with. Thank you. Thank you, Thank you. Thank you. All of this shifts your vibratory rate. And, to go back to the higher and lower question, you need the whole range in the same way that an orchestra, in an orchestra, in a western orchestra, the violins may play high notes, the cello and the bass playing, the low notes. You need to have access and be in the experience of (hard to explain) many different vibrations. The ones that connect you lovingly to the earth, actively loving the earth, the ones that connect you to actively loving, not from a personality level, but from the larger levels. All beings honoring nature, particularly for those of you who live in cities, having plants near you, loving your plants, listening to sounds, the Tibetan bowls in their different sounds, activate vibrations in you as you respond to it. To them that create peace, aliveness, good health. If you do not have, the bowls, we are sure you can get recordings of them.

   Jon: Steel mixing bowls are fun. Steel mixing bowls,

   Micciah: Steel mixing bowls, singing. We have said this before, moving your body is made to move. When you move, your vibratory rate changes, shifts. When you press your feet into the ground, even if you are in winter. You can't go barefoot. Although this one often steps out onto the ground in the morning, even when it's cold. Just for a moment. What are we talking about? We are talking about attending, understanding and experimenting with the vibratory rate of your being. The earth has a vibratory rate. Everything, everything, the food you eat. So, what do you think the difference is... [chuckles] We don't really mean this as a joke. Between a hamburger made from cows living in horrible conditions, killed mercilessly and filled in, in the flesh of the animal with hormones and antibiotics? Here's the hamburger. What do you think its vibratory nature is? It's basically dead. Whereas, if you can, eating food that is alive, how do you know food is alive? It rots. One of the things, those of you eat organic food, which is probably most of you. Um, it doesn't keep well unless you have dried, dried fruit or something of that kind. It doesn't keep well, it's alive, it has a lifespan. So, what you eat is really important without making yourself crazy about it, and that you and yourself and you and everyone else crazy about it to eat living food. We also understand everyone can't get it. It is more expensive to buy, but you do your best. So, we are talking now about the body, the aliveness, level of aliveness and the different vibratory rates that you are cultivating in order to be, as Gandhi said: “Be the piece you want to see.” Meditating, singing, dancing, meeting in this group. And on that subject, we want to say that as Jesus said, where two or three are gathered in my name. So, if you have two or three people and you have many more than that, and you are all doing this together, what you create in the vibratory world is more than three. It expands exponentially. If you do energy work as Lila does, and some of the rest of you do, Lila is very knowledgeable about it, in your body. It brings peace, it brings harmony. So, we hope you will, um, remember this in all of your meetings. And how's the vibratory rate? How are the vibratory rates going? Julie was talking to her dear friend Nancy, who was reporting on what her teacher had said, which also had to do with vibratory rates and with going back to love. So, you find yourself wandering, you listen to the, the radio or the television, and you find your heart beating too fast. You know, your cortisol levels are going up, you notice, and you can stop and breathe, and put your feet on the ground, and sing, and do a few Tibetan balls, or listen to them. The flute music that comes from the Andes, maybe. Bach, extraordinary, whatever you like. Although it's good to experiment. Oh, well, how, how can this make a difference? It will make a difference. It'll make a difference in the level of your calm. So, if you want to march, of course do, if you are marching in a vibratory frequency of love, of caring, of intending peace, you will be a different marcher from someone who is screaming hate. Even those years ago when Julie marched, she wore outta shoes. She would not say she would, she would say peace, peace, peace. She did not want to scream, Hey, hey, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today? Because what does that do? That's more anger. More anger is more anger. Not useful. So, this is all about nourishing the various vibratory rates in some, in the ways that we've mentioned and any other ways you find to do it. Now, we will stop because we know you had specific issues you wanted to address. Sue if you read them, we will do our best.

   Sue: Well, they're not very specific, but one of... So, the first question was, what's going on and what do we have to deal with with respect to our country? And then what can we do to maintain our democracy?

   Micciah: And well...

   Sue: Tune It out? Or do we engage with it?

   Micciah: Well, you see, it depends on what we are talking about. You can do both. You can do either, you can sometimes not listen to radio or television if that's what you prefer. Although, you need to keep some contact with what is actually happening in the physical world. Some people are inclined to watch television more and some less. It is the state of mind you are in. It is the vibratory rate that you carry that determines what happens in the doing, coming from your being. So you can do some of it. You can do all of it. It's efficacy in terms of contributing to peace comes from your consciousness and, and the group, the consciousness of the group that you are all supporting each other. And when you are doing your meditation, Julie often thinks of all of you when she is meditating or dancing around the kitchen or whatever she's doing. Because the danger... One of the great dangers in this situation is rigidity... Well, several of them. Rigidity, hatred, anger, othering. You want to move into connection. You are all, there is only one of you. There is only one of you. We promise that if you do this, when you do this, Even if you can't see it in the moment, it will affect the whole situation. And, not to leave this out, you have to take care of the feelings that you have at a personal level. You feel frightened, you feel angry. Okay! Notice it. Hold it with kindness, comfort yourself, physical self, personality self, in whatever way works for you. And then do some sounding or listen to music or dance. You have, you cannot skip. We have, we say this with boring regularity as well. You can't skip over your feelings, your personal feelings. You have to, you honor them and you treat them respectfully and with honor and care for them. The efficacy of what you do to nourish peace, to bring it about in the physical world has to do with your own consciousness and what comes from you, the vibrations that you are living. Sorry, Sue, go ahead.

   Sue: No, that's okay. I just, because one of the questions specifically was what, what's the most effective thing that we can do to keep our emotional center from...

   Micciah: All of these things

   Sue: And all of that? But

   Micciah: All of that, and if you have a que... Please, if you have a question about what we are saying, ask.

   Sue: And how do we keep ourselves from being from, from being victims or from feeling like victims?

   Micciah: In the ways that we are describing.

   Sue: Okay.

   Micciah: And when you feel like a victim, you, uh, we think you are all aware enough to know that, Oh, this is horrible. This is horrible. It is horrible! To go to these, these, these... Working with your vibratory rate, with your... And how much that affects. The universe hears you. The universe hears you, knows your thoughts, knows your feelings, knows your intentions, knows what you want to manifest. It's two way. Goes two ways. So, when you go into it, to be respectful of it, that is, ah, “Oh my God, it's hopeless.” To notice that and care for it in yourself and maybe reach out to a friend or to at, at someone in this group and say, I just, we just... Not online! Voice to voice. I just, could, could we talk for a few minutes? Everyone is always so busy. No, I can't talk. Could we talk for a few minutes? Because you reinforce each other. The love you feel talking to each other or to another friend will reinforce you. It will help, you assist you in the moments when you feel victimized. Very important! Isolation in a, in these sit, in this situation is, unless you are in Tibet, meditating in a mountain cave is not, not, not really a desirable choice. Times of peace and quiet when you are alone, that's different. Moving away from contact right now, not, not so good. Connection. Connection.

   Jon: But that you don't dwell on how bad it is while you're connecting?

   Micciah: If you...

   Jon: Well, as an admonition, don't dwell on how bad it is.

   Micciah: No. And if you find you are dwelling, get some, get some help. Call someone, read something that is whatever, whatever

   Jon: Dance together. I dunno,

   Micciah: poetry, uh, what whatever lifts you, dance, breathe, say even in the midst of this, I'm saying thank you. Even though here this is what Nancy and Julie were talking about. Even though X is happening, I am going back to love because love is the core of your being. Love is the core of everyone's being. Vast, eternal love. It has always been with you. It will, it is with you now, and it'll always be with you. So you have the practice of going back to that love. Even when X is happening, even though Y is happening, I am going back to love. And if I can't make it in that moment, I can call someone, I can get some help, I can read something, I can dance. This is literally, literally. Please continue.

   Sue: That was it. I mean, it was like Sarah said, stay hopeful and keep showing up and...

   Micciah: Stay hopeful and keep showing up.

   Sue: Yeah. Yeah.

   Micciah: Showing up is another vital part. Show up. And if you're not going to march, if you want to demonstrate, show up by sending someone $5 or $50, send an an organization that you trust. Show up, show up saying thank you. Show up saying, I care about you. Show up. Checking in with someone who is not doing so well and saying, how, how are you? Not online! It's not the same. What else? Please.

   Sue: That's all I had anybody wanna add to that?

   Micciah: Anyone want to either add or ask a question?

   Sue: Lila?

   Micciah: And, and making a commitment to yourself and to each other, to really, to really work with this, with yourself as a vibratory, being with your breakfast as a vibratory entity with your plants, with your animals, with your friends. If you get caught up when you get caught, not if, when you get caught up in the fear, in the victimhood, to remember this and do it. In some ways those of you who have been doing this for so many years have been in training for this time. You did not come into this incarnation by accident. No. Someone asked about democracy.

   Sue: What can we do to maintain our democracy?

   Micciah: Live all of this, live it. You, you, um, the United States actually is a republic. It's referred to generally as democracy, but it's not. It's a, it's a republic. But we, we understand what you mean. In spite of the fact that Julie said she doesn't want to do any fortune telling. It's hard to explain also.
   What can we say? That the situation in your government is it, it's going to both implode and explode. Oh, did we forget prayer? Your prayers, your prayers affect your vibratory rate. Praying for the people who are in such terrible straits, the people on upon whom an immediate attack was launched. People who have come to this country as immigrants, and then one generation back. Even if you were born here, you have to be born from someone who was born here. The people who were originally here are the people from whom the settlers stole land. They didn't understand.
   When, when Julie was in school, maybe, perhaps it's changed. Oh, the foolish natives sold their land for beads or whatever it was. They didn't understand the, they didn't have the concept that you own land, and you don't, even if you think you do. And to pour your love into the land wherever you are, walking the streets of New York or in California or in Albuquerque, to pour your love into the earth, into the food that comes from the earth. Thank you. And offering prayers, very powerful, very powerful, however you wanna pray. Enveloping the people who are suffering in a, suffering in, in a very direct way in prayer, enveloping the whole situation, not just in this country, but in the world in prayer. And the old song, he, or you could say she, that Marian Anderson sang so beautifully, s’got the whole world in his hands. You've got the whole world in your hands, in your heart, in your prayers, in your dance. And so when, when what to do is frustrating, what do I do to fix it? Let that one go. How can I be right now that contributes to peace? And then whatever action I take, I carry the peace and the love with me. So there are people who demonstrate, who are angry, and there are people who demonstrate, who demonstrate peacefully. Also thinking in the larger sense of an economy that is based on exchange. It is the... The new book...

   Jon: Serviceberry.

   Micciah: Serviceberry, written by the woman who wrote the book on, Sweetgrass talks about, um, working out as best you can, an economy of trade. I'll give you tomatoes and you give me squash or I'll give you a chicken and you'll give me seeds for my new garden. To begin to move yourself even in something like buying clothes. There is a group, we think it's, we think it's all over the United States. We know there are groups in New York. Jon and Julie couldn't find it, but, Nancy directed to it. Buy nothing. Start to move yourself out of the, the buying selling economy and into the trading economy, the sharing economy. Here, can I give you this? Marilyn does this already. She does it very well. Julie is doing her best. She doesn't buy clothing anymore. Shoes, Please, dear ones questions before we leave.

   Jon: Gail.

   Micciah: Gail?

   Gail: Yes. I've been looking a lot more

   Micciah: Oh yes.

   Gail: Into to some of my, my pain and disorders from within. And I'm not gonna go into the detail about it. And there's an old part of me that thinks I need doctors to make me well, and there is a part that they play. But I, I keep saying I can't find good doctors. And I think there's a part of me that is keeping the conditioned belief that I need doctors to save me. And, and I, and I would, I'm, I'm learning that really with visualizing and directing my cells and my nerves to heal and things like that, that I can heal myself

   Micciah: Well.

   Gail: , if there's anything you can offer on that,

   Micciah: Well, yes. First of all, it depends on the doctor. The, the, the issue is the belief. Doctors, when you need a good doctor and you can find one that is wonderful.

   Gail: Yeah.

   Micciah: A western medical doctor. and as you know, we don't have to tell you there, there are many kinds of healing available, particularly if you live in, in a place like New York. But they will, the problem is the little, is the belief that the doctor will make you well. Your body plus whatever treatment you get, assuming it's a good doctor and it's appropriate, and the energies of spirit and your own visualizing and loving your body will make you well. And as... Yes, Please someone else.

   Jon: Rick, you had your hand up,

   Micciah: Rick.

   Rick: Julie started to talk about this ahead of time, but how, wherever there's a doctrine or an orthodoxy, there's a tendency to, um, expel people who don't completely tow the line and agree with it, whether on the left or the right. And how do we come from more of a middle ground and be willing to listen to different points of view?

   Micciah: You decide you're going to be willing to listen to different points of view. [laughing]

   Rick: Or maybe, maybe my question

   Micciah: To be curious,

   Rick: is there, is there hope that we'll get there because it just seems like right now it's so polarized.

   Micciah: Ah. Will you get there? Yes. Eventually, the more all of you and all the people like you in their different practices are, are in this... Going back to, even though ‘mmm’ is happening. I'm going back to love. The more people, the more you do it, the more people will do it. It’s catching. Um, and, and also to, to be always begin with yourself. Notice when you listen, really listen. And when you half listen and when you decide after the first four words, this person is an idiot. And, and I am not, not going to listen to anything they have to say because it's stupid. Notice... Always begin with yourself. So, attend to it in yourself. Listen to what the person is saying. Notice when you have already decided after sentence three that this is an idiot and I am not going to listen. Uh, and, and stop yourself and really listen. Always begin with yourself.

   Jon: Ah, Bob,

   Bob: You spoke about the old brain, the unconscious self and beliefs.

   Micciah: Yes.

   Bob: How does one recognize?

   Micciah: Oh, you can recognize them. They have their little signatures. Alright, we'll give you an example.

   Bob: And then transform them?

   Micciah: Well transform them. We've already spoken about.

   Bob: Right, Okay.

   Micciah: But recognizing them, feel it. You can feel them. When you hear your inner voice rolling around in fear to offer yourself comfort. And then make another choice. Get in touch with someone who can assist you. It, it, and, and, and if this, if you, you are in a trusting relationship, you can run it by them. So this is what I'm thinking. What do you think? Is this, is this old brain rattling or can I talk to you about it? Asking, asking, asking, asking your own guides, your own guardians, asking your plants. What do you guys think? What do you think? Your plants communicate with you. Everything communicates with you. Lila's trees, her great guardians.
   Sarah, did you have a question?

   Sarah: I did have a question. First of all, I think I'm mis... I can't claim that this is my thought. This was from Rebecca Solnit, that, um, if Trump had true power, he wouldn't need to take control and have all these executive orders.

   Micciah: Oh, absolutely. And if, um, you know, he could do it in the normal manner. But I think, you know, ultimately he is weak. He is evil. But I have something, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but, um, I, I do think, and you mentioned in your, in one of the opening remarks that in his election there was a little bit of something. Mm-hmm.

   Micciah: Funny business. Yes.

   Sarah: Funny business. And that in Musk taking over the treasury department and all of our personal information, and he's got these 20-year-old, uh, tech bros that isn't it possible that they could have manipulated the voting machines?

   Micciah: Oh, of course. Yes. There was. Was there funny business in this election? Yes. There was a lot of, a lot of different kinds of funny business. Yes.

   Gail: Absolutely.

   Micciah: You don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to understand that or make a good guess. Yes. People who are like Trump are so sad, so angry. So... and underneath, underneath almost all anger, unless there's a real brain chemist chem, well, they, they go together. They ... is fear underneath all of that. The, the deep motivation is fear, the hatred. All, all of that rests on underneath that pile is fear. And it, it's that kind of fear, that degree of fear causes that kind of behavior. So, it's a good illustration of go back from what do I do to, from doingness to beingness. It comes from fear. And it's just awash with fear. And someone asked about the Republican party. Um, it's just the people who are just letting it happen are frightened. He is frightening. His cohort is frightening and they're frightened. And, and adults who are frightened, just like children who are frightened freeze fight or, Um, There's a third one.

   Several class-members and Micciah: Flee. Flee. Flee. Fight, Flight, Freeze.

   Micciah: And they are in fear. And it has for the moment, uh, affected their capacity to hear what is really going on, to act. And they are, and they are in the old brain of fear for themselves. Just imagine stepping into that, uh, group. Speaking of vibration.
   [Sue laughs]
   So...

   Jon: How is Julie's energy? Because it's...

   Micciah: We are, we are going to stop. Thank you so much. Thank... We thank all of you. Always remember, you can ask the entities that love you and protect you are not like helicopter parents. You need to remember they're there. However you can conceive of them, the rivers, the trees, your beloved ones. You have to ask Help. I need you. We share with you so much love. So much love, and we bid you a very good evening.

   Jon: Thank you.

ONSCREEN VISUAL DISCLAIMER:
   Julie: “What I believe happens when I am channeling is that I enter an expanded geography of the self, and that there is an overlap between what I know (my intelligence, my awareness, my experience) and something that is larger than my ordinary awareness. It may indeed be that it is all part of my awareness and that would be fine. What’s produced is a personality that is a product of the overlapping and the personality is called Micciah.
   This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”