MICCIAH CHANNEL: JULIE WINTER
Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 3, 1984

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1984 where Micciah discusses:
Hunger....physical, emotional, intellectual, creative, spiritual. “Starvation in the world can only mirror something starving in all of you.” View Section
The difference between the power of the abstract and the power of the concrete. View Section
The splitting between the light and the dark, cutting off the nourishment of what is dark, mysterious, wet. View Section
Violence is a part of life. “You don’t have to choose to be violent to each other. It is being in the wholeness of the paradox that empowers you. Do take care of what needs to be cleaned up and to celebrate what is so alive.” View Section


   Micciah:  We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie:  We do greet you, indeed.  This is Micciah Channel, and I’m Julie Winter.  Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I’m in trance,  and while I’m in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm.  This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes.  We want to expand our circle, and include your energy and interest in our work.
   The session that we are looking at today deals with the relationship between personal hunger and world hunger. The apparent opposition between the forces of light and the forces of darkness. And the tyranny of the abstract mind.

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   Micciah: We greet you, dear friends. There are many different kinds of hunger. There is the most basic physical bodily need for nourishment. a need which must he cared for. It is a basic need in the sense that survival depends on it. A baby must be fed, physically. and must also be fed with feeling, with touching, with human contact. So there is physical hunger and later, but not so very much later, emotional hunger. intellectual hunger, creative hunger. And there is a hungering in the spirit.
   Now, all your questions are related. You ask about the difference between the power of the abstract and the power of the concrete. A fixation on principles which have no vibrant component, which live only in the mind, in the abstract realm, enables people to proceed in a way that the babies of the world, the children of the world, are not fed. There is fixing on the abstract principle of, let us say, economics. Cannot send food even though there are starving children, starving people, because of "economics." Well. this is a rigid fixation in the abstract realm in some way fundamentally split off from the feeling self, the concrete self, the intuitive self. The so-called power of the abstract mind is only empowering at all levels if it is connected to all levels. One could just as well conceive abstractly of the need for all beings to be nourished and support that concept with intuition, with the heart, with actions, with commitment, with personal and group dedication. All the levels of being contribute to each other. The emotional alone would not be able to plan, to administer getting food to so many countries, but it would tell you that in a fundamental sense a planet that can feed everyone and allows people to die hungry is a consciousness that is out of balance.
   Where then to begin with this notion of hunger? Where do you have to begin except yourselves? What are the hungers in your life (nods), in your life, in your life, in the life of the group, in the life of the community? What are the real hungers and how can you go about satisfying them? What is your relation to food? To emotional nourishment? To intellectual awareness? To the spirit which really infuses everything? We said last spring in a session in this group that there was a connection between the eating disturbances in this country -- the vast overweight, the anorexia, bulimia, and so forth -- and the planetary disturbance, and the people who are starving.
   So, what kind of hunger have you and what is within your power to alleviate it? Take what comes to hand, and then implement it in the practical world. Take the money from a day of food and spend it somewhere where it is useful. The hunger of all the starving children, the starving grownups as well, is within all of you. If you have a hunger for justice, how can you be just in your life? And in this separation between the aspects of the self, in whatever way the separation occurs, you have a self divided against itself. The unmet hungers, the unmet needs on a personal level -- you are a personality, yes?, you have taken great trouble to create it -- those unmet needs in the segments or facets of the self create the same kind of starvation that you manifest also on the planet, an emotional starving perhaps, or a creative starvation where the spontaneous energies of the being are not trusted, or the starvation of a self that knows its power to heal itself vet seeks always to pull from outside the doctors, the medicine, the healer, the perfect cure.
   Power is within. (There is really no inside and no outside, but it is a good metaphor.) So the self divided against itself has portions of itself which are hungry, and being hungry has several possible effects. It can be depleting energetically, exhausting. Hungry people can be mean, hungry aspects of the self can easily lose contact with compassion. Well, who is responsible for feeding all the beings in the great being of the planet “you?” When one part of the self has overdeveloped hunger, like an apetite gone out of control and grabs for itself everything, everything, then other portions are out of balance and begin to experience starvation, not to mention revolution!
   So, one way to approach uniting the self, experiencing the total natural unity and integrity, is to find out what your hungers are and which parts of you are holding their belly in starvation, and which parts have a very boring diet, which in itself can be exhausting. And then moving out from that: Are your relationships hungry? Is your relationship to your work hungry? Is your relationship to your group, to your community, hungry? Really, there is plenty, plenty of energy, plenty of love, and the more you truly experience the plenty that is available and give it back out, the more prepared you are to deal with the planet. To know deeply inside yourself that plenty is there for you is to be able to carry that with you wherever you go. It’s a risk.
   Now, also, in the split between the concrete and the abstract, the concrete is the experiential. The abstraction, even a beloved metaphysical abstraction that there is plenty, is not a substitute for the experience of it. In the splitting between the light and the dark, in cutting off the nourishment of the earth, of the dark, of the dreaming state, of the mysterious, of everything that is wet and wiggly and contains the germ of life, you starve yourself; and you can starve yourself right into very dangerous rigidities of the abstract mind, which then becomes a tyrant. “Be good! Be clean!” (“This one” will not like that.) Flowers, vegetables, grow in dirt, in earth, so to divide the self against itself is to lose the nourishment of all that slippery mud which is so full of life. If you think of the earth, the sun and the moon shining on the miracle of the earth, plants needing light and darkness alike, if you feel the wholeness of your self, the wholeness of your contact with life, you are not then able to proceed in action from a punishing and warlike rigidity.
   Now. one more thing. We do not mean, as we have said before, to paint life like Walt Disney. Violence is part of life, violent storms, hot sun, bitter cold; but you don’t have to choose to be violent to each other. That is a choice. And you can celebrate the extraordinary movement of life. You are all here by choice, here on this planet. A city like New York smells funny, yes?, is full of dirt. You can work to clean it up. How many of you would clean up your own neighborhoods? You can work to clean up, you can work politically. You are most effective if you have peace in your heart. And you can celebrate the life of the city, which is also extraordinary, like a volcano, yes? Celebrate its energy and its vitality. Don’t speak so much with your judgments. Put your attention toward working with it.
   Now, on a practical level. you do need to drink water, you know, to clear the body. You can keep some sea salt near your shower or bath, make a little pack in the hand and scrub the skin once a day – arms, legs, belly, chest, back -- and then rinse it off. It cleanses debris off your skin. Then have a good rinse.
   It is being within the wholeness of the paradox that empowers you. We will say that again. It is being within the wholeness of the paradox that empowers you. To take care of what needs to be cleaned up and also to celebrate what is so alive. Both.
   Please, have you questions? Is this clear? Ask if it is not clear.

   Woman: Could you talk more about the paradox?

   Micciah: The abstract mind, the linear mind particularly, likes things to be one or the other, and rushes back and forth between opposites. The emotional self, at the level of daily ordinary experience, experiences one feeling after another. Anger and then joy and then sadness and so forth. You cannot have two feelings at once. Or can you?

   Man: Yes.

   Micciah: The deeper level. which is an innate matrix of wholeness, can have a number of feelings at once and also knows, not intellectually but knows in a greater sense, of the oneness of the apparent opposites. You have the whole world divided between the “good guys” and the “bad;” and the longer you maintain that system of opposites, the further peace is from your door. So when you say, “I’m a good person, I send money to people who starve.” Yes. And the starvation in the world can only mirror something starving in all of you, everyone. Do you see? It is very complicated.
   So. You are doing very well in your work. Risk. To feed the world, to feed the self, to feed the heart, to feed the mind, it’s a risk.
   We share with all of you much love, and we bid you a joyful sunny afternoon.

ONSCREEN VISUAL DISCLAIMER:
   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”